An interesting article via The Smirking Chimp from the The Guardian. If torture and the infliction of pain was soooo effective, don' t you think that the US prisoners in the Hanoi Hilton and other camps would have given up everything? Are we so arrogant as to believe that Al-Qaida does not teach techniques to counter interrogation? As noted in a comment on the Chimps site, "... Nobody has any evidence that using coercive methods gives you anything that patient, smart interrogation and detective work doesn't...". How true. I thought we were supposed to better than this nonsense. I see many signs of success in the investigation of Terrorism, and I am sure that they are coming from great investigative work and international cooperation, not terror and torture.