The governor of Alabama is trying to raise some revenue for his state by raising taxes, which you know, makes a little sense to pay for stuff like traffic lights and education and police and firefighters. Minor requirements of life in the universe as we know it.
I have a suggestion, why not put Judge "Pet Rock" Moore on un-paid leave? I'm sure that the savings might buy some school supplies for some school district somewhere in Alabama, and it would be well, fair. After all, I'm pretty sure that the Hairy Thunderer will be happy to pony up for the good Justice's utilities, mortgage, car loans, grocery billl and such right after he's done settling the conflicts in Israel, Northern Ireland, Bosnia, and other places where there is religiously inspired violence. Until then, Judge Pet Rock can talk about himself, a favorite topic:
In a speech in front of the monument last week he mentioned God 12 times and himself 21 times. And now he's been suspended from the Supreme Court, the real question is: anyone want to bet against Roy Moore running for governor of Alabama in the not-too-distant future?
I would not be surprised to see him on the Sunday talkshow circuit repeating his ridiculous assertions to the Fox Faithful, but slowly so that they can understand and look up all the big words he uses in their bibles...
Oh, and how does a two-and-a-half ton stone tablet with the 10 Commandments not count as a Graven Image?
posted by Jo Fish on 08.25.03 at 07:43 PM
Comments:
Per Orcinus, the crowds folllowing PetRock are all the wacks who think the Civil War ain't over, or think Blacks live in trees.
Fortunately the majority of Alabamans aren't as stupid as he looks. I hope he does run, so he can understand what 'landslide loss' means.
The 11th Commandment: God is not served well by arrogant assholes. Shut up, Roy.
Graven image!!!! Yes! He must be as illiterate as he is arrogant.
posted by: dave on 08.26.03 at 01:21 PM [permalink]
Moore has displayed the ten commandments prominantly in every courtroom he has occupied throught his 11 year career as an elected judge. He ran for Chief Justice of the state supreme court as the "ten commandments" judge. One might go so far as to say (forgive me) he has made the ten commandments the cornerstone of his political career. This recent episode certainly damaged him in the eyes of moderates, but they mostly did not vote for him in the first place. I think it is premature to predict the judge's political demise.
posted by: etc. on 08.26.03 at 05:02 PM [permalink]
Guess none of you know anything about the Constitution.
Judge Thompson made an injust ruling, he stated that the Ten Commandments violated the "Establishment Clause" of the First Amendment.
The Establishment clause is thus:
"Congress shall pass no law respecting the Establishment of Religion..."
The Alabama Legislature, but more specifically, the Federal Congress did not make a law establishing ANY religion.
Judge Roy Moore was excersizing his right as the Chief Justice to put the Ten Commandments in his State Court House.
The Federal Government intervened Unconstitutionally.
The first Civil War was fought for less than this!
The only thing holding back the guns is the fact that there is hope that this can be solved through awareness...but it is fastly disappating...war is coming and this Union will again be divided in two.
Conservatives versus Liberals.
You will not be able to get away with this again.
It is absolutely against the US Constitution 9th and 10th Amendments for a Federal branch of office to involve itself with intra-state matters!
The fact you idiots don't know anything about the Constitution is the reason they are being able to get away with this.
posted by: FreeMason on 11.13.03 at 09:39 PM [permalink]
And a few comments about above posts.
First off, I'm not a Southernor, I'm a Nevadan, and the talk of Secession here is growing as a whisper spreads in school.
Second. I don't think blacks swing in trees...I think blacks that don't listen to "rap-crap" are very upstanding individuals, and I know for a fact even the ones who listen to rap, don't necessarily act like the blacks in rap do, and also are sometimes very upstanding individuals.
Anyone who is in a "gang" and does drugs, is a loser, not just a black person, I am not racist in anyway.
Third, I'm not religious either, I don't care about the Ten Commandments either way, I only care that our Constitution stands as the Supreme law of the land.
And when Thompson ruled that the Constitution supported his thoughts, he just threw it out the window.
He did not have jurisdiction, nor did he have a right to declare that the Constitution supported him.
If he had won the argument saying that the Ten Commandments could be interpreted as offensive to other religions and is being interpreted as such, and therefore should not stand, even though there is a constitutional right that it may, therefore it should be removed.
But he couldn't have won that way.
He had to throw the constitution away.
And lastly, I have a degree in Political Science and know quite a bit more about how the Government is supposed to work, how our Great Republic has evolved since the ratification of the Constitution, and I know more about Law than any of you yokels do.
You may not want the Ten Commandments there, that's fine, that's your opinion you are entitled for it.
But it's not yours or the Judiciaries ability to enforce that.
If you don't watch yourselves you're going to find yourselves having to back your arguments with the gun...as we here in Nevada are prepared to do the same.
No one destroys the Constitution and gets away with it.
posted by: FreeMason on 11.13.03 at 09:45 PM [permalink]
"This book [speaking of the bible] is the secret of
England's greatness." Queen, Victoria Windsor
"My daily advisor and comfort is the impregnable rock
of the Holy Scriptures." Gladstone, architech of
American law
"You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of
life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ.
These will make you a greater and happier people than
you are. Congress will do every thing they can to
assist you in this intention." a message to the
Native American Indians, May, 12th, 1779 by, George
Washington, 1st US President
"Religion and virtue are the only foundations, not
only of republicanism and of all free government, but
of social felicity under all governments and in all
the combinations of human society." John Adams, 2nd
US President
"I have always said, and will always say, that the
studious perusal of the sacred volume will make us
better citizens, better husbands, and better fathers."
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd US President, 1st Washington
D.C. school board president
"Before any man can be considered as a member of Civil
Society, he must be considered as a subject of the
Governor of the Universe... Religion... is the basis
and foundation of government." James Madison, 4th US
President, chief architect of the Constitution
"The Declaration of Independence first organized the
social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's
mission upon earth and laid the corner stone of human
government upon the first precepts of Christianity."
John Quincy Adams, 6th US President
"The bible is the rock on which our Republic rest."
Andrew Jackson, 7th US President
"I am profitably engaged in reading the Bible. Take
all of this upon reason that you can, and balance on
faith, and you will live and die a better man."
Abraham Lincoln, 16th US President
"I am sorry for the men who do not read the Bible
daily. I wonder why they deprive themselves of the
strength and the pleasure. I should be afraid to go
forward if I did not believe that there lay at the
foundation of all schooling and all our thought this
imcomparable and unimpeachable Word of God." Woodrow
Wilson, 28th US President
"Almost every man who has by his life work added to
the sum of human achievements of which the race is
proud - has based his life work largely upon the
teachings of the Bible." Theodore Roosevelt, 32nd US
President
"Religion is the only solid basis of good morals;
therefore, education should teach the precepts of
religion, and the duties of man towards God."
Gouveneur Morris, scribe / handwriter of the
Constitution
"Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scuple not to
call him an enemy to this country." John
Whitherspoon, Continental Congress, Declaration of
Independence
"Providence has given to our people the choice of
their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the
privelege and interest of our Christian Nation to
select and prefer Christians for their rulers." John
Jay, 1st Supreme Court Justice
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often
that this great nation was founded, not by
religionist, but by Christians, not on religions but
on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this reason
peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum,
prosperity and freedom of worship here." Patrick
Henry, Continental Congress
"...convincing proofs I see... that God governs in the
affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the
ground without His notice, is it probable that an
empire can rise without His aid?" Benjamin Franklin,
Constitutional Convention,
"Of all the dipositions and habits which lead to
political prosperity, religion and morality are
indispensable supports... . Reason and experience
both forbid us to expect that national morality can
prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
Alexander Hamiltion, 1st Secretary of Treasurer
"The moral principles and precepts contained in the
Scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil
constitutions and laws... . All the miseries and
evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition,
injustice, opppression, slavery, and war, proceed from
their despising or neglecting the precepts contained
in the Bible." Noah Webster, American Revolutionist,
Constitutional Convention, Dictionary
"There is not a community which cannot be purified,
redeemed and improved by a better knowledge and larger
application of the Bible to daily life." W.J. Bryan,
Democratic Orator and statesman, ran three times for
presidency and failed, nicknamed the Commoner
"I suspect that the future progress of the human race
will be determined by the circulation of the Bible."
Dr. R.A. Millikan, 1923 Nobel prize winner in physics
"Our ways; through a Christian President, finally
outlawed slavery in America with the world soon
following its lead. The great freedoms we enjoy are
the direct result of the Christian faith of our
predecessors. No great civilization or religion from
the world did it; it was our Christian Forefathers and
Foremothers and their open faith in God through the
Jesus Christ that did."
William M. Cooper
Kingsville, TX
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