May 20, 2004


Preview of their Talking Points (and legislation to come?)

There is this whole debate emerging, led by Instahack and others about the nature of the Mess in Mesopotamia. Fine. They were wrong, we were right and that about ends the conversation...but more troubling is this column that Atrios points to by Tony Blankley, somewhat of a force in his own right, having been schooled at the feet of Uber-Neocon Newtie, and much more low-key but very connected in his own right. Sez Tony:

But all this potential capacity for victory can only be brought into full being by a sustained act of collective will. It is heartbreaking, though no longer perplexing, that the president's political and media opposition want the president's defeat more than America's victory. But that is the price we must pay for living in a free country. (Sedition laws almost surely would be found unconstitutional, currently — although things may change after the next terrorist attack in America.)emphasis is mine
It's hard to believe it but that thought has to be rattling around in the heads of certain bug-toxin sniffing house members, and conservatives who want to appoint another Supreme before they lose the Senate.

Our diversity of opinion makes us who we are...it's served us well for most of our history as a Republic; and now some republicans see it as a crippling liability...we've come so far to have gone nowhere at all...and we even have a "King" George.

posted by Jo Fish on 05.20.04 at 01:38 AM





Comments:

Back in 1988, when Bush pere painted my Governor Dukakis (too honest to be President) as a card-carrying ACLU member, I promptly joined the ACLU. Now, blankly, Blankley is suggesting a comeback of sedition laws. So I guess I must continue to speak out against Bush Jr. Just a reminder to Blankley that John Adams and the Federalist Party that controlled Congress back in the late 1790s enacted sedition laws that the then Republicans (now Democrats) led by Thomas Jefferson challenged and succeeded in defeating Adams (as well as the Federalists in Congress) in his reelection bid. Bring it on, Tony Blankley!

posted by: Shag from Brookline on 05.20.04 at 06:28 AM [permalink]



The real story behind all this, of course, is the background regarding the chemical attack due in late October.

That will necessitate postponement on the November counter-coup, speedy enactment of enabling legislation by the Fascist Party extending our Great Warrior Leader's landslide mandate (5-4, remember?) until the emergency is over.

Say in 30 years or so.

posted by: Lurch on 05.20.04 at 11:23 AM [permalink]



I think only Bush's defeat will ensure victory in Iraq

posted by: merl on 05.20.04 at 03:12 PM [permalink]



The Fascisti are creeping out from under their rocks en masse. [hands out stakes, garlic, holy water, sticky rice, silver nitrate and tri-nitro-toluol]

Seriously, did you see that thing on "The New Daddy State" over at Atlantic, and Glen Reynolds deploring the free press? It's like they're all tossing off their masks.

I think that, in hindsight, Godwin's Law was a bad thing (in my personal subculture, we didn't enforce it at all, I knew people whose families had fled either Hitler or Stalin) because it made it impossible to talk about this crap by definition, so they flourished, since it was so obviously too absurd to think that anyone could really be resurrecting the Essence of Reich these days.

Orcinus has some good posts up on how it was just too gauche in journalism to take the neo-nazi/skinhead/militia types seriously, and how this was a mistake.

Me, I'm a paranoiac who misspent most of my adolescence reading alternately milsf, espionage, and world history, so when people go "that's unthinkable! Our Government would never do X!" I'm going "now, logistically, would it be possible/probable for them to do X?* Nyeeh, but, just to be on the safe side..." which used to make people think I was a flaming nutcase, and now they're not sure.

(*Like the tracking of all library books checked out, frex, which used to be a standard sign of being a nutbar conspiracy theorist, and now - you guys have all heard about MATRIX by now, right?)

posted by: bellatrys on 05.20.04 at 07:47 PM [permalink]



I've been arguing against politically correct speech for years. I want bigots to say what they think out loud, so I know who and what I am dealing with. I was glad Jesse Jackson said that stuff about "Hymietown" back in, what was it, '88? Gave me some information I didn't have.

posted by: dean on 05.20.04 at 08:46 PM [permalink]






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