May 25, 2004


Andy does Agnew

Sullivan keeps whining that anti-war critics "continue with their relentless negativism", that we're all Nattering Nabobs of Negativism. I guess that when he got his bitch-slapping from Juan Cole, he forgot to read this small piece of work from General Anthony Zinni, USMC (ret), a guy who has seen the elephant and is not afraid to take on the 1600 Crew.

Well, I want to be clear. I don’t have a plan. I have some ideas or thoughts in each of the areas: political, economic, security. This is… I gave you sort of the Whitman’s Sampler of a few ideas. I don’t think…the worst thing we could do is create another U.S. plan. There are a lot of good ideas out there.
Ideas not Plans are a good way to start, and General Zinni has got some great ones. The 1600 Crew unfortunately only sees what it wants to and so does Sullivan. He's Agnew writ large...just 35 years or so too late.

Thanks to reader Bruce Webb for the pointer to GEN Zinni's speech

posted by Jo Fish on 05.25.04 at 11:59 PM





Comments:

Plan? We had a plan? When, percisely does he think we had a plan?

These clowns attacked early because they had a rumor that Saddam might be at a house, and then it turns out he was, but they got the house number wrong. How many times did they kill hom and his sons? Some plan.

There was a plan and Rumsfeld dumped it and Jay Garner who wanted to implement it.

posted by: Bryan on 05.26.04 at 04:01 AM [permalink]



Fantastic read. Was posting on kerry that Zinni is a treasure to our country to have him serve.

Think that he is the person Wes Clark had in mind for his psot of someone to coodrinate Muslim policy to eliminate the kind of mistakes at every part of the process Bushco has undergone.

Not a political guy wither, am sending this to a friend who doesn't vote, cannot stand politics... he's a marine also.

posted by: Mr.Murder on 05.26.04 at 04:08 AM [permalink]



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posted by: Mr.Murder on 05.26.04 at 04:16 AM [permalink]



Andrew may be looking for acceptance from Bill Safire.

"Ol' Juan Cole,
Was a very savvy soul,
Jammin' it up
Sully's a_____e."

As to the need of the critic having a plan, I think back to 1968 when Sen. Eugene McCarthy was criticized for not presenting a plan to resolve the Vietnam War, responding: "You don't have to be a shoemaker to know the shoe hurts." Besides, the critics don't have available the same information that Bush Jr. has but has obviously not been using well.

posted by: Shag from Brookline on 05.26.04 at 06:46 AM [permalink]



Yeah, that's what gets me about people wanting Kerry to lay out a specific plan: a) he has no access to all that Top Secret POTUS info that GWB doesn't want to hear until it's been reducd to words of one syllable, so it's a trick question; b) he has no control over what the brass and the civilian carpetbaggers are doing there now and for the next six months so any plan he woudl come up with would also be useless given that the situation is totally fluid.

Sheesh. All that anyone can reasonably come up with is very vague contingence plans, and one Firm Directive: Stop Heavy-Handed Screwing-Up Of Things, And Put Real Experts, Not Heritage Foundation Rookies, In Charge.

posted by: bellatrys on 05.26.04 at 07:20 PM [permalink]



here's an idea andy, let's get the fuck out of iraq and spend the money here on our own plethora of problems. or is that too sensible?

posted by: on 05.26.04 at 07:23 PM [permalink]



There was a CSPAm freep on,a fruity woman who was part of AEI and is a good friend of the NYT lady who is factually challenged.

She had an impediment inflection and mannerisms and is one of the Perle cabal pieces. Two women mentioning one another as sources and their anon "insider" as Perle. The loonies are running the asylum.

Can see sully point to her as a triumph of freepers' fractual factual parade. She has more pills, a better blouse, and actually gets to sleep with Perle for stories...

posted by: Mr.Murder on 05.27.04 at 06:00 AM [permalink]






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