Of course they can all be lying, just like the Swift Boat Vets, right?

GW's poll numbers are up and the Democrats are finally talking about Kerry’s Senate record. Life just doesn't get any better! 4 MORE YEARS

Thankfully, the Swift Boat Vet allegations are not supported by the official paperwork. Just like Bush's allegations of having served in the national guard are not supported by the official paperwork.

Ooops, troll feeding. What I meant to say was: Not only do those dead troops wish they could have survived, I also think the troops in Iraq could probably have done more good elsewhere. Probably in Afghanistan, I'm thinking. Or even at home... or, in the case of the reservists, in their day-jobs and helping raise their kids.

If they don't want to join they can come down to Florida and fill-in for the Florida Guard who would have been helping with the recovery from the last hurricane and dealing with the current one.

If you support the war, fight it. If you believe in something, prove it with your body and blood. If you don't believe in the President enough to risk to risk your own life, don't ask others to do it for you. As he said, you are either with him or against him.

These chickenhawks in training are preparing themselves to lead this country in 20 years or so into another war of choice; of course, their children will not participate in that war as they will be chickenhawks in training for even later wars of choice. My how they must admire Bush, Cheney and the other chickenhawks presently in charge who have set their example. It makes me want to break out in song: "Give me some chickenhawks, who are spineless chickenhawks and I'll soon give you even more ...."

Asd a patriotic American it makes me proud to see that the Fascist Party is still training its jingoistic cowards early in life.

Our favorite quote in this whole piece:

"We don’t have to be there physically to fight it"

Please feel free to reprint and disttribute via email to anyone you know serving in Iraq. Or any other hot spot (we think we’ll send it to a promising young Marine officer of our acquaintance expecting to be deployed to Afghanistan with his unit in a few months).

And then ask whether they find that or reports of protests in the streets or screenings of Fahrenheit 9/11 more demoralizing.

Hey, it goes with Jonah Goldberg talking about how he won't have the opportunity, it's receding in the rear view mirror of his life to fight in a war.

Dunno, seems like there's plenty of opportunities, aren't they talking about Cuba now? and I think he's younger than me, he could still enlist right?

I mean, if he really thinks that a war every 10 years or so is good for a nation's testicular fortitude, shouldn't he be beatin down the recruiter's door? I'm just saying.

We don’t have to be there physically to fight it

WTF? You mean like Dubya didn't have to show up for guard duty to still serve? What a bunch of shitbirds!

The attitude reflected by these young people of draft age is a perfect example of why we should have some sort of mandatory service to nation. Peace corps, Job corps, military or something, anything. Just so they can appreciate a little of the sacrifice it takes to be a citizen of this country.

We're in deep kimchi if this bunch is ever called upon in a real national emergency. Maybe that is why Crashcart and company is so intent on closing our borders. Not to keep out foreigners, but to make sure none of the future cannon fodder escapes.

Did a little Googling on Miss Hokel.

We’d like to know how she can be so dismissive of her physical abilities should she be called upon to serve when she competes in field events, including a 92"7" women's discus throw ... OK for a sophomore, we guess.

Still developing

so let me follow your logic, since im not physically there fighting for our country in iraq that means i dont really support our troops, its all just lip service right, so that would mean according to your logic that becasuse you arent there either(the guy who interview me) that he dosnt support the war?

so let me follow your logic, since im not physically there fighting for our country in iraq that means i dont really support our troops, its all just lip service right, so that would mean according to your logic that becasuse you arent there either(the guy who interview me) that he dosnt support the war?

Hi y'all.

thanks for calling me a chickenhawk.

isn't it great how things can get misquoted?

honestly, i don't know what you're complaining about. do i see you out there in Iraq fighting this war, anyways? if my instinct is correct you must be over 18, while i am not. No, i do not want to fight this war. but yes, i do believe in at least supporting the troops. we, as americans, should be able to do at least that. and trust me, had i been 18 when the Pentagon attacks occured, i probably would have been nothing but a folded flag handed to my parents by now.

Just because i am "highly patriotic" does not imply that i'm all out to go and "save my country". in fact, it doesn't even mean that i fully support this war. i support my troops. i dont know if i can say the same about you.

as for Ms. Hokel, although i do not know her personally, has a point. i probably would do much more not as a soldier but someone who is helping on the home front. please excuse me. i believe that because i realize that my physical incapabilities may actually hinder the army's progress i probably should not enlist, and i beileve that is what Ms. Hokel is trying to get across.

as for your comment on being a white person living off the lap of luxury, i take that as great offense. i happen to be a first generation Korean-American whose family's income barely skirts the line of poverty. i have to work the next 6 months paying off the convention fees.

and i do believe that you have "mistakenly" not included the fact that my cousin is currently employed in the Middle East.

why shouldn't i support him, who went voluntarily even though there was no real shortage of troops?

isn't it just like the nature of a democrat to go after the people and not the issues, being whiny and creating lots of noise but having no substance?

as for the comment about farenheit 911, i suggest you do some research about Michael Moore. you'll be suprised at what you may find.

When my brother and I both got back from Vietnam alive and went back to college in 1971, we liked to joke around. We came up with two rules to end all war:

1. If you want a war, put on a helmet and take a rifle and go first.

2. You have to eat what you shoot.

The sorry little fuckers at the GOP Convention are hypocrites like their elders.

In twenty years one of these piece of shit cowards are going to be running a political campaign against a legless Bush War vet and questioning his patriotism.

Ms. Lee,

Since the focus of some of your comments appears to responsive to ours, we shall speak to yours.

To not mince words, we’re going to have to play rough with you here.

First: “misquoted” Until you attempt to claim you actually said something else or otherwise clarify, we can safely read “misquoted” as meaning what politicians always mean: They didn’t realize what they said was getting taken down. You could have said, you’re young, you didn’t realize this and that you misspoke. That would have saved face.

But you, oh no, you’re too good for that, you’ve got to keep digging the hole deeper so you can come up from beneath and surprise us. Yeah. That’ll work.

do i see you out there in Iraq fighting this war, anyways?

If you would do some research you would see that Mr. Fish put in a good 20 years of his life and time for the United States Navy. We begin to actively dislike you, Ms. Lee. You are crossing the line from naive to insulting.

No, i do not want to fight this war

Then shut up. Others can speak more eloquently and knowledgeably in favor of it than you.

and trust me, had i been 18 when the Pentagon attacks occured, i probably would have been nothing but a folded flag handed to my parents by now.

WTF is she trying to say here?

if my instinct is correct you must be over 18, while i am not.

It helps, but it’s not necessary. Or so we think.

i believe that because i realize that my physical incapabilities may actually hinder the army's progress i probably should not enlist, and i beileve that is what Ms. Hokel is trying to get across.

Just what physical incapabilities are you referring to? You weren’t exactly potted plants in Madison Square Garden, honeybuns, the two of you were pages, who if we recall correctly have a job that demands that you move around pretty regularly with paperwork, among other things. And Tiff tosses discuses ... if you can do that, you can certainly throw a grenade.

You’d be surprised what Basic Training alone can do for what you think are your “physical limitations” (“You guys got what, a six-to-eight week program here? I’m going to come out a LEAN, MEAN FIGHTING MACHINE!”). Indeed, teaching you you aren’t as limited as you think yourself to be is a large part of the point of Basic.

If you’ve got some sort of physical disability you aren’t telling us about, now’s the time.

and i do believe that you have "mistakenly" not included the fact that my cousin is currently employed in the Middle East.

For the very good reason that, until now, no one knew that.

why shouldn't i support him, who went voluntarily even though there was no real shortage of troops?

All fine and good, but do you mean “deployed”? In that case, we don’t see how it was voluntary ... he had his orders; he went (unlike the man whose war you are backing, who totally blew off the Alabama Air Guard to drink more beer so that others could remain sober).

And to go back to the original article, you said you might consider enlisting if “there was another Sept. 11” What? The first one wasn’t enough? We bet that if al-Qaa‘idah blows up Old Navy, that’ll get you going.

isn't it just like the nature of a democrat to go after the people and not the issues, being whiny and creating lots of noise but having no substance?

Isn’t it just like a Republican to whine about being held accountable for their positions and hypocrisy and pretend it’s not an issue?

We think you have a lot more problems right now than the accuracy of F9/11.

F911 is accurate too. A ten thousand dollar reward to prove it wrong has yet to be claimed.

You're not 18 yet? And push for this war and support it? How noble of you to ask others to carry forth the fight.

Well you can sign up now if you're 17 with parental consent. My uncle did. Served in the mekong on a PBR no less. You should try it, it'll do wonders for that attitude about war.

Kind of irnoic we saw presidential debates in '96 on one channel, changed channels to see old Kerry war testimony on another. over a smoke he actually agreed that war is hell and Kerry had guts to get all of ours home and out of danger.

Strange how the circle turns. War vet sees war protester for the transparent truth he is. Diamonds undergo a lot of heat and pressure to become the most valued stone.

John Kerry saw the heat and pressure of combat up close, volunteered for it no less.

He's a diamond of truth and our country is lucky that he lived through his service to lead us.

Believe at the time Mike needed no consent but had it anyways when he volunteered. I could be mistaken am not familiar with any restrictions upon enrollment at the time...

I received this email and took a look at the site. Looks like they did some research on the subject. I’ll re-think my position on John Kerry. Looks like he’s the one for a draft or national service at the very least.

Democrats and Kerry want us drafted.

Democrats for a Draft

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