Burn the boots, and anyone higher than 04 gets a pass. The only thing surprising about this is that anyone would be surprised about it. This is the way the military has always worked.

And I hate to laugh about any aspect of this situation, but "almost singlehandedly" was very wry.

By the by, didn't I read somewhere about a couple of token junior officers in the docket? Something?

the child of those two sub-human creatures is a gift from god. i'll bet they name it george or condaleeza.

He just got 10 years. What do you think Rummy would get?

Take a breath, everyone. I'm sure the Army will deal appropriately with anyone guilty of violations, including senior officers. So far, a brigadier general has lost her job, and there is more coming. Let's wait and see how it plays out.

As far as civilians and politicians are concerned, they're outside the Army's purview. And Gonzales...exactly what law are we saying he violated? Or are we now advocating locking people up because we don't like their politics?

Actually Tom, his published policies are acknowledged by a diversity of educated opinions to endanger our service personel. A reasonable line of logic could lead directly from the prison abuses/prisoner treatment to the spate of kidnappings, beheadings and general abuse of coalition (wink wink) forces including civillians from a variety of nations including Iraq. It may well be that such arguments would stand a better chance in a civil case and, I certainly believe that he should be sued for what he has done but, I would be extremly hesitant to label legal actions against him as "politics". No, he was not physically involved in the abuse. Yes, his policies likely lead to said abuse. That isn't politics. That looks like willful and/or reckless endangerment to me.

I suspect that of the two of us, he would rather have you on his jury.

Good God! A senior officer lost a job! Haven't they all been punished enough for beating people to death, piling them naked in heaps, forcing them to sexually abuse eachother, raping them, smearing them with shit, siccing dogs on them?

What next?! God forbid, but will some officer be fined $20, or WORSE?

What a world - what a world!

I just started Sy Hersh's Chain of Command, and it's the kind of book you pray is wrong. Not because you want the author to be discredited, but because you want the stuff he writes about to be wrong, that a bunch of soft-handed Macchievelli wannabes could take the country in the direction it's going.

And yeah, I don't think the court-martials are going to go any higher than Graner. Otherwise, questions might have to be answered.

The judge sentencing consent guidelines the SCOTUS rule on is their way out for the higher-ups...

As for Lynndie's baby- what if it looks like Ahmed Chialabi and Graner gets locked into child support? Will she name him Alberto or Rush? If is it's a girl she can have Mann Coultier be her nanny.

See fraternity pranks can get outta hand. Girls gone wild, baghdad style.
There is no reason to follow bad orders.End of the line so he's still guilty.
Being ordered to do so is another issue. You go to torture with the orders you have...

typos :( sorry

What? That's what MPs do to each other all the time. You have to remember that. No doubt those Abu Ghraib MPs never did anything to those POWs that they didn't do to each other at their parties stateside.

Never let anyone know that you know any MPs, people'll automatically think you're involved in S&M and all kinds of other weirdness. I think it must be part of MP training.

Hey, if MPs do that kind of thing to each other for fun, then they really shouldn't have been doing it to POWs! It's like, they were partying with them, instead of breaking their spirit! Whoa! Trouble!

I tell ya, American military. They get in trouble, don't they?

Appellate procedure's at risk, though...

1. Timely
   
2. Strategery
   
3. Webb wins
   
4. Huh?
   
5. Bunnypants in Bagdad
   
6. Outage
   
7. Filthy Lucre Watch
   
8. Playing the numbers
   
9. My letter to Countdown
   
10. Jefferson's Nigerian Scams