This post is despicable. You know nothing of Ratzinger or the Hitler Youth, your ignorance of the last days of Nazi Germany is appalling, and your hatred of Chritians is as palpable as it is irrational. (And no, I'm not Catholic.)

This site is notorious for tinfoil-hat-wearing rants and conspiracies, but here you've crossed a line.

GET A LIFE!

Yeah, Bean. The Hitler Youth were just a bunch of misunderstood choirboys. While it's true that membership was mandatory after 1938, it's also true that there was not a large history (that I have been able to find) of HY deserting. Ratzinger's politics still ally him philosophicaly with fascist elements in his church and he is not considered by even many Catholics to be "progressive" at all, especially at a time when the church is facing dwindling membership, trouble in recruiting priests and is embroiled in scandals which he still denies being the church's fault.

As for "hating" christians. Let's just say that I have an intense dislike and skepticism of the christo-fascists who continually want to be professional victims. I don't think that there has ever been a bigger bunch of crybabies in the 2000 or so years of christianity than the right-wing christians in this country. Everyone "hates" them, nobody likes them, they seem to feel that they are oppressed because the Constitution, written by a bunch of white guys who were descended from Europeans who fled, ummmm, religious oppression, and was penned specifially to not allow that oppression to happen here, denies them the right to force their beliefs on everyone else without question. Hence, the Establishment Clause and the writings of many of the Founding Fathers on the subject of not establishing an "official" church.

As for tin-foil-hatted conspiracies: well, that's what the internet is for, isn't it? I figure that if nationally-known christo-fascist televangelists could sell video tapes purporting to show evidence of The Clenis™ & Co. murdering Vince Foster while communicating with Space Aliens, and a drug-addicted right-wing blowhard can call Paul Hackett, an honorable Marine Officer a "staff puke" while belittling his service in Iraq (didja know by the way that Paul Hackett is an Infantry Officer/Marine Rifleman first and a lawyer second), then I can run my little conspiracy theories here, it's my online magazine, after all.

I have a LIFE! Bean-O. I'd just prefer that it remain religion-free and contented.

Thanks for playing, though....

wow...bean needs to stop sniffing the glue.

Betcha he thinks that "little planes" were delivered by the stork... ;-)

I've seen some good rants on this site in the last couple years, but to find all the tin-foil anyone could ever want just drink the kool-aid, check your brain and soul at the door, and become a right-winger. I say right-winger, because they took over the Republican party in the early sixties. There's nothing conservative or remotely Republican about the current right-wing radical movement in the USA.

I happen to think Jo's orginal thought is quite intriguing. I know little about this new Pope, but indeed, had Benedict and Paul met as youth there certainly might have been one less of the two.

No matter the day, we all must be careful of what ring we might be tempted to kiss.

I worry about the ring of power we in American seem to be kissing up to. http://www.cafepress.com/whitehousecrazy

So every German who served in the German military during WWII was a Nazi? Everyone who was in the Hitlerjugend was a Nazi?

Jesus, have you read any history? What a crap post, Jo.

Every german enrolled in Hitler youth was a nazi. Ratzi was.

If you weren't enrolled Hitler Youth there's better odds you were not a Nazi.

In fact Susan did you see jo say every German? Nice of you to put sterocast words for the intent of self-victimization into other's posts.

Every German was certainly his implication. You all sound like a bunch of know-nothings.

Sorry Susan, just had to post this:

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Some locals in Traunstein, like Elizabeth Lohner, 84, whose brother-in-law was sent to Dachau as a conscientious objector, dismiss such suggestions. “It was possible to resist, and those people set an example for others,” she said. “The Ratzingers were young and had made a different choice.”
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and this, from the same article:

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In 1937 another family a few hundred yards away in Traunstein hid Hans Braxenthaler, a local resistance fighter. SS troops repeatedly searched homes in the area looking for the fugitive and his fellow conspirators.

“When he was betrayed and the Nazis came for him, Braxenthaler shot himself because he knew he couldn’t escape,” said Frieda Meyer, 82, Ratzinger’s neighbour and childhood friend. “Even though they had tortured him in Dachau concentration camp he refused to give up his resistance efforts.”
ENDQUOTE

and this:

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One liberal theologian,when asked what he thought of a Ratzinger papacy, was more direct: “It fills me with horror.”
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So, Susan...maybe not a Nazi, per se...or just a coward.

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