It's not South Dakota's fault. It's our mutantly moronic legislature.

Visit our state, there's some magnificent places out here. Don't pass them up just because our legislature is comprised of backwoods imbeciles who equate the concept of Freedom with Hegemony.

Be mad out our legislature. We are! But be even madder at the six dumbass screwball Democratic legislators that voted for the ban. Their vote by no means represents their constituants, and they just butt-fucked themselves out of re-election. Challenging established law is one thing, doing it with our wives' and daughters' uterii is another.

So, c'mon, venture on out to SD for some sun-time this summer. It's a good place. You don't see us not going to Ohio just because Ney took a bunch of slicky from Abramoff, do you?

It's not a uterus. It's a baby, with it's own distinct DNA. All the ranting and raving cannot change this undeniable scientific fact.

PS. Have you noticed how everyone who's for abortion has already been born?

Like South Dakota didn't have enough trouble developing its economy. Now who is going to bother to deal with them, move there, or visit?

bean's mother was obviously pro-choice. she chose to have him/her. the whys and wherefores may be dubious.

It's things like this that make me realize I am a LIBERAL, not a DEMOCRAT. Yeah, I'm looking at you Julie Bartling .

No, Dawnne, you're wrong. Quite wrong. Maybe it's some alien bug in the water or, something about the corn pollen (probably GM corn) that's affected all your brains. But you voted these 12th century aborigines into office, and sustained them, and you own them. They're yours. The whole passel of them. If you all rise up, and demand they repeal the law, we'll reconsider the embargo. :)

Myabe you can manage without the 21st century. I suppose it's likely, after all you got along just fine with horses and carriages and kerosene and animal husbandry.

I'm not saying it'll happen all at once. But even though tourism makes up a very small part of your state's income I wonder how you'd all feel about doing without out-of-state license plates gracing your prairies and hills.

For myself, living in a state that survives on tourism, I tend to to the view that it's better to mind my own business and not get too exercised about the strange 14th century folkways of you red staters. Just park your bigotry and superstition at the border please, before visiting my home.

I'm sure Bean feels the same way about in vitro fertilization, since it also destroys embryos, right?

Nah, didn't think so. They can't be consistent in their reasoning, can they?

Some of the arguments in S.D.'s law - really pushes the border of theology, and not law.

Example: A section of the law states that.." a soul has no means to stand and defend against itself.." I note this is in context with the law in conjuntion with the mothers health, and possibility of abortion to save either/or's life(s). The law is written in such a context to inferr that the baby's life is more important than the mother's.

Roughly stated, this is to inferr a soul is an entity above that of a living human being. Now, the right wing has gone and stretched the boundries of defining an entity which has no real parameters to define itself.

Can you say Metaphysics, boys and girls? I thought you could. Let's toss in some Existentialism, just for shits and giggles.

I can't wait to see how this plays out in court.

Semper Fidelis

This crowd not only wants to tear down the New Deal, it seeks to reverse the advances of the enlightenment movement and return to a national atmosphere of cult beliefs and superstition.

Voltaire, Locke, Swift, Jefferson, and Franklin are turning in their graves.

BD, that all goes back to the patriarchical "sacred phallus" theory of superstition. And it follows logically that smegma and spermatozoa, coming as they do from the phallus are equally scared. (No pun was intended in that sentence. It just sort of erupted, spontaneously.)

It's interesting that Medicare will pay for Viagra, but not for female hormones, eh?

actually, Luch, i didn't vote for these imbeciles. i've only lived here 17 months, but i am, in fact, fast approaching pissed enough to be considering running for state legislature. the idea that 23 people in south-freakin-dakota, with all due respect, have the right to tell the COUNTRY what to do with their uterii is unconscionable. for what it's worth, i diatribe about the issue here: http://cleancutkid.com/2006/02/24/how-dark-the-limelight

Hey Bean,
I am always pleased to see you post at Jo's site--I don't think you would be here if you weren't sensitive to the complexity of an issue like choice. I will do what I can to ensure that abortion stays legal, safe and rare. This means that the raper is punished, not the victim, that our culture addresses the issue of birth control and the need for easy, inexpensive access to condoms and other forms of birth control for teens and adults, that children are valued best when they are born into a world that will provide for, value and love them--safe neighbourhoods, good health care for all, educational oportunities... No, we're not just a bunch of unique chromosomes; we are a culture, family, friends, defenders, with commitments to do the best we can, and to make choices during tough times.

What a shame. I'm going to miss South Dakota. I've been going there for decades every year for the Sturgis Rally. Thank dog I'm not equipped to get pregnant. It is going to be hard passing it up this year, but I think the Sturgis Rally is probably the biggest tourist draw in that state. We virtually take over for one week a year. Why don't these 23 morons that pushed this stupid agenda just move someplace else, like Iran.

I'm sure Bean feels the same way about in vitro fertilization, since it also destroys embryos, right?

If done right, IVF need not destroy any embryos. The fertility labs fertilize way too many eggs because they're money-making operations and want to guarantee success to the client. That's why there are "leftover" embryos. There are many fine doctors will will fertilize only one or two eggs for IVF, ensuring that none are left over.

This crowd not only wants to tear down the New Deal, it seeks to reverse the advances of the enlightenment

We can use Enlightenment thinking and never have to resort to a single religious argument to show that the entity in the mother's womb is an independent human being with its own genetic code. It has brain waves and a heartbeat often before the woman realizes she's pregnant. The arguments from science could go on and on to show why elective abortion is a moral crime. All we get in return though are emotional outbursts and insults--the exact opposite of Enlightenment reasoning.

It's okay to manipulate the birth process (IVF,Viagra etc), yet anything to do with the process by which to cease the birth process is completely, wholly and spiritually unethical.

Interesting paradigm you've tried to create. Not a conundrum by a long shot.

Conundrum: a question or problem having only a conjectural answer b : an intricate and difficult problem

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