November 06, 2006


Stupid Kidz

This has to be one of the most moronic things that I've seen on The Corner in quite a while (and there are a lot of stupid things in that part of WingNutLand).

Anti-Rumsfeld Editorial in a (Non) Army Paper [Mario Loyola]
The Army Times editorial slamming Rumsfeld is more interesting than meets the eye. This is a private newspaper owned by the same company that owns USA Today. It caters to the military, but has no affiliation of any kind with the military or the Department of Defense. None of the folks on the editorial board are currently military and an editorial assistant at the outfit couldn't think of any editor who ever had been in the military. They have no more visibility into the military than any other newspaper, which is to say not much.
I don't know who Mario Loyola is, and I don't know if he's ever been in the military himself (a republican talking/writing head, probably not). I don't know how much it's changed (and I can't imagine it's changed all that much), but the Navy Times (same company that does the Army/AF times) was pretty much not just read, but devoured by most service men and women. Why? They had pretty good info, they always had good stuff about pay and allowances, they had articles about duty stations and goings-on in career fields that helped folks make decisions. It was always a good resource, and it had the enviable characteristic of being "passed around" and kept in offices and such, because it was/is good reading. (Other papers like "Stars and Stripes" and magazines like Proceedings, Leatherneck(?), Wings of Gold and their ilk also make pretty fair reading and tend to be kept for a while, but don't have the timeliness of S&S and the Military Times.)

So for Mr. Loyola to say:

...They have no more visibility into the military than any other newspaper, which is to say not much.
...
...Rumsfeld is hugely popular among the military, as is obvious in any of his Town Halls and speeches to them.
That just beggars the imagination. Rumsfeld, like his Master, Preznit Deserting Bunnypants, shows up for a speech, the troops are not going to be "excused" from going, and they are not (especially after the incidents a couple of years ago where Donnie got put on the spot about things like body armour) going to be allowed to ask critical question.

All this leads me to one conclusion, this guy is a typical kool-aid drinking republican, i.e. full of shit.

But hell, that might just be one old airdale's opinion.
posted by Jo Fish on 11.06.06 at 02:59 PM





Comments:

Promotion lists weren't considered official until they were printed in the Air Force Times and it was the only newspaper most people had around Eglin Air Force Base when I was a kid. As a matter of fact I was one of their carriers for a while.

Yes, Gannett bought out the original publisher, but the Air Force Times is the only paper I saw at every base I was ever stationed at. You only saw the Stars and Stripes at overseas bases.

I don't know about the current editors at the Times, but Loyola has obviously never completed basic.

 posted by: Bryan on 11.06.06 at 08:55 PM [permalink]

I served in the U.S. Navy for 10 years.

The Navy Times is second only to All Hands Magazine as required reading for every sailor.

The Military Times newspapers are extremely influential so this Loyola person is simply trying to spin this devastating editorial.

 posted by: StarkyLuv on 11.06.06 at 10:08 PM [permalink]

Mario was a "consultant" to the DoD. From his writing, he seems make Jonah Goldberg look like Wolcott.

If his writing parallels his areas of expertise, he'd make Feith look like George Marshall...

 posted by: Jason on 11.08.06 at 12:14 PM [permalink]

20 years after I got out, I still get Airman magazine, online now though.

 posted by: Fixer on 11.08.06 at 07:38 PM [permalink]


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